Beasts of War channel removed from YouTube

By tgn_admin
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May 19th, 2011
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The Beasts of War channel on YouTube has been removed due to unspecified contravention of the site’s Community Guidelines.

From their website:

BeastsOfWar has been terminated due to multiple or severe violations of our Community Guidelines.

No word from the Beasts of War team if they have had any word from YouTube as to what these violations are.

  • Weird. What could they possibly have done to warrant this? Hope they get it sorted–I love BoW!

  • Excessive waffling? Hardly a crime.

  • cybogoblin

    I had a quick look through the Community Guidelines – http://www.youtube.com/t/community_guidelines – and the only thing that stands out to me as a possible problem could be use of copyrighted material, but that can’t be the case. BoW have worked closely with all (I think) of the gaming companies whose product is featured on their channel, so I can’t see that being a problem.

    Maybe someone took offense to comments make by the team in one or more of the videos, but that seems extremely petty, especially considering the nature of the content. Hopefully, this turns out to be a simple misunderstanding and things can get put back the way they were quickly.

  • Veritas

    Didn’t they used to do “unboxing” videos of GW kits? Maybe GW finally decided to call them on it? Just wild speculation on my part.

    • keltheos

      Only four posts in before GW was invoked. Not bad, TGN readers.

      • Psychotic Storm

        Can you really blame them? GW has a history of such moves, could they be entirely unrelated? yes, but when you have a background of a such a behaviour it is logical to be the first suspect.

        • Zac

          Can you really blame them?

          It is pretty wild speculation. Its probably some music company pulling them for using a tune in the background accidentally

          • Psychotic Storm

            It is a possibility, although, I can’t remember any tune they used that could lead to that.

          • cybogoblin

            If it was music, then YouTube would have just muted the tracks like they do for other videos. This sounds like something much worse (if it isn’t just an error).

      • Veritas

        I’m not looking to start the GW bashing. I was just voicing my opinion on what could have been the reason they had been taken down. I, too, hope Beasts of War comes back. I really enjoyed their Infinity week.

        • yea i think IP issues or see my post below as the reasons… either way it sucks as these guys have put in a lot of work into their vids

    • Shades

      Based on my totally inexpert knowledge of IP law, I think you’re allowed to show copyright material when it’s the subject of a review. I know, I’m just adding fuel to the fire……

      • Yep review is certainly allowed under Fair Use.

    • cybogoblin

      Or it could have been their Army Book reviews where they show page spreads from whichever book they’re talking about. It’s possible the HD clips might be good enough that you could read the stats, or other specific details, off the page.

      If that is the case, of couse, a lot of GW-related podcasts might be in for similar treatment.

    • Mananarepublic

      To me the unboxing videos are pure advertisements as they show the hobbyists exactly what comes in the boxes… I would be really surprised if this was the case…

      I will wait until I hear from BoW regarding the reasons and skip guessing.. 🙂

      /M

  • Psychotic Storm

    It is a really odd development I am curious on why and on what grounds it was done, hopefully they will get their account back.

    Now it might be the recent announcements, or the history of a particular company, that make me think of it been responsible for such a thing, time will tell.

  • pbeccas

    I will miss seeing the boys getting fatter and fatter every year.

  • I think a lot of the stuff on YouTube is browsed by Google bots and pulled automatically until a live person can peruse the ban by the “bot.”

    You’d think, though, that if BoW thought they were in the right, they’d be posting somewhere about it.

    My guess is they were possibly asked to remain quiet and not speak about the ban.

    Either way, it calls into question the many vidcasts and video reviews of products- not just in our hobby, but across the spectrum.

    We should all be aware or at least wary, of possible infringement of terms and conditions in regards to the new uses of the Internet-such as YouTube, WordPress, etc, when we use their services.

    • pbeccas

      They posted a new video about this on the Beasts of War website. They don’t know why they were banned. No-one told them.

  • ImaginaryWars

    Stirring the pot

    Maybe they reviewed something for the Rifts RPG? I remember when the owner of Palladium stated that he would sue anyone that reviewed his company’s products–favourable review or otherwise!

  • 4tonmantis

    They could very easily use Vimeo, Google Video, or any other number of video hosting mediums.

    • cybogoblin

      Vimeo is the only one I know of that comes close to the functionality of YouTube. Having the Channel page is a big bonus.

  • could be due to profiting from the content –http://www.youtube.com/t/terms , as per section 4 of their terms of use, content needs to be royalty-free –

    “You agree not to use the Service for any of the following commercial uses unless you obtain YouTube’s prior written approval:
    • the sale of access to the Service;
    • the sale of advertising, sponsorships, or promotions placed on or within the Service or Content; or
    • the sale of advertising, sponsorships, or promotions on any page of an ad-enabled blog or website containing Content delivered via the Service, unless other material not obtained from YouTube appears on the same page and is of sufficient value to be the basis for such sales. “
    there is also the issue of :

    “YouTube will remove all Content if properly notified that such Content infringes on another’s intellectual property rights”

    • Mananarepublic

      I said I wouldn’t speculate – but this is highly likely!!! Good spotting sir!

      /M

  • antenociti

    I can see a few reasons why it would be removed due to a breach of the Terms of Use, but i cant see anything that breaches the “Community Guidelines” other than Copyright.

    At the same time there are dozens and dozens of other channels doing exactly the same thing, but a lot less well.

    It’s very odd whatever the reasons.

  • Osbad

    I’ve been puzzled for a loong time about who the BoW guys are. Are they a store? are they just a bunch of gamers doing a vidcast for fun? They put a huge level of resource into this, and it is greatly appreciated by the community, but other than potential advertising revenue (which I can’t imagine is a huge earner) it is hard to see who is paying for the shows.

  • janus

    Venificius listet above some of YouTubes terms and I wonder if it maybe was the advertising from Battlefoam and Wayland Games within BoW videos.

  • The repeated homophobic jokes and comments maybe? Or (more likely) GW getting stroppy because they support companies like Mantic, Battlefoam, Corvus Belli, PP etc, in a fantastic and in depth way. I have started playing Infinity solely based on the Infinity week, and have certainly spent money with Mantic purely based on BoW coverage!

    • on reflection, there are far worse comment threads on youtube, so strike that 1st one!

  • pbeccas

    RHQ might have a problem because they actually run Battlefoam adds in the middle of their videos.

  • kwi

    BOW is actually a project for a media company based in Coleraine, Northern Ireland. Having done a few videos for them in the past I can say they are nothing but enfusiastic(sp?) about the whole thing. The original intention was to become a store with unboxing and painting videos for every product but that was maybe a bit ambitious and ended up being an on line magazine. Though I am friendly with the guys I haven’t been in touch with any of them to discuss this, though I hope it all works out well for them. I know the site generates revenue through clickthroughs so am wondering is this the cause rather than that big corporation everyone loves to hate. Though there have been instances of Youtube deleting accounts then investigating so maybe no actual breach just a complaint.