Privateer Press announces Hordes 2-player Battlegroup Box

Privateer Press has a 2-player Warmachine starter, now they’ve got one coming out for Hordes with Circle Orboros vs. Everblight.

From the release:

From the frozen northern wastes the Legion of Everblight descends upon Immoren, defiling the land with taint and corruption. Dependent upon nature but fueled by its raw and ancient power, the druids of the Circle Orboros clash with the dragon Everblight’s forces to halt the spread of the dragon’s blight. The irrepressible Kaya the Wildborne, flanked by her trusted pack of beasts, leads the Circle’s vanguard against twisted and bloodthirsty ogrun and dragonspawn led by the deadly Lylyth, Herald of Everblight.

Complete HORDES: Primal Mk II rules in a travel-sized booklet (88 pages), an introductory guide, dice, a ruler, and 20 plastic HORDES models with corresponding stat cards.

  • Bobofreak

    $99.99 for 20 Models? I know the general consensus is that Warmahordes is cheaper to play then WHFB and that is some peoples draw to it (I just happen to like it!) But seriously the starter set for WHFB Island of Blood looks to be a much better value with 70 models and the equivalent stuff to play, rulebooks and such. I think PP would be much better served by offering there starter set at a significantly reduced MSRP then $99.99. To me it just removes price of getting into a tabletop game from argument over their biggest competitor as well as what you get for your money. Right now there the option with less in the box for the same price.

    • pmavers

      If “more models = automatically more value”, I guess.

      I think it’s still a fantastic value, because the units the box comes in are all medium-base (aka 40mm) units, and would cost something like $70-80 separately each. Even if you only use one of the armies in the box, you’re still coming out ahead.

      • Bobofreak

        For a lot of gamers getting into a game I think “more models = automatically more value” will be true which is why I think PP are missing an opportunity to distinguish themselves. To me this just seems a case of pricing according to what they think the market will bear.

        • ater daeus

          Except that the two-player battle box is far cheaper than buying the stuff separately.

          More mini’s does not equal more value when Island of Blood gives you two “demo” sized armies. GW may give you more per box but they make you buy far more boxes. The Hordes starter has two fully playable “I can take this to an event” armies.

          Saying that Fantasy is cheaper than Hordes is simply the GW Kool-Aid kicking in. We sold many of the Warmachine Two-Player sets. Island of Blood collects dust.

          So does 8th Fantasy.

        • -DE-

          If that was true, GW wouldn’t be getting any business and Mantic would’ve wallowed in cash while all boutique mini companies would’ve gone belly up.

          Furthermore, Hordes starter is an actual starter set with which you can start playing the game, whereas IoB is merely a set of mostly one-piece models that do not make an army, and you still need two army books at what, $40 a pop? These are two different beasts.

          I must say both this and the WM 2P sets are FANTASTIC value – you essentially get two units for free along with the full rules.

      • wittdooley

        Yeah, this is a really great value. Too bad my wife just got me the Circle starter for my Bday! Now the question is whether or not I “really need” 2 more Argus’

        🙂 Great Value. I expect we’ll see this at GenCon.

    • ater daeus

      The starter comes with the same rulebooks and gaming aids that Island of Blood does.

  • Gallahad

    I think the question is whether or not you can actually play a reasonably representative game of Warhammer or Hordes with the starter boxes. While you get more models with the IOB box set, you can’t really play anything resembling a game of Warhammer with only the models from the box.

    I’ve never played Hordes, but my sense is that you can play a rewarding game with just the starter box, and that you only need a few more models for a fully fleshed out force.

    This box may be just the thing needed for me to get into Hordes.

    • ater daeus

      Correct. The Legion in this box comes out to 21 points and the Circle comes out to 20 points. Events run 15, 25, 35 and 50 points usually. And they are good lists.

      Anyone out there want to crunch the IoB points?

      • Karnophage

        I forget the point costs but IIRC the Elves had something like 50% more point cost. The IoB did not include army lists or point costs of the miniatures included so it was fairly useless as a starter set. It is not that IoB include value, but it is not a introductory game.

  • ninja007

    A little bit of “tips and ideas” about this set…

    Everyone who plays those two factions and keeps current, has the plastic heavy warbeast kits. They are one heavy beast kit that lets you build 3 different beasts, right? Well you usually only make 1 beast and have some bits left over.

    I would buy this set and then get established players to give me their leftover beast parts, many of us who buy the beast kits have a gory pile of limbs and heads laying around with no real use. Get the Warpwolf Stalker arms, sword, and head and use those on the Feral Warpwolf in the 2-player battlebox! Or the Pureblood, or even buy Ghetorix’s blister. All those fit onto the Feral that comes in this set. Feral is a great beast but you can pick and choose and aren’t married to that.

    Same goes for the Carnivean, there’s 2 other builds for it you can easily swap to for free if you have some local players, you’ll be able to find some cool peeps who will be happy to toss the parts your way! Basically all I’m sayin’ is if you like you can add a lot more versitility to what this set includes and personalize it. I am going to get one myself and do that very thing, make the Feral into a second Stalker =)

  • Blitz R

    Considering that, if they follow the WM example, the heavy beasts in these starter boxes will only include the parts needed to build the represented models (a Feral Warpwolf and a Carnivean), I am surpised that PP did not simply swap out the parts for the Feral and put the Stalkers parts in instead. That would have balanced both sets at 21pts each and I think it would have tipped a LOT more players that had already started a Circle collection to buy this set…..after all you can never have too many Stalkers.

    Other than that, these sets are fairly good value. You basically get two full sized heavy infantry units basically free of charge with a handy sized copy of the rules as well.

    Get a mate and split the costs and for about $100 more each you would both easily end up with 35pts each and have a few options that you could swap out to mix your army lists up with. Not too bad for $150 (when you split the starter box with a mate) to get a (small) tourney sized army purchased is pretty damn cheap.

  • That looks like a very nice portal into the Hordes/WM gaming universe. If I were a fantasy gamer…