Palladium updates on their Robotech RPG Tactics post-Kickstarter progress

By Polar_Bear
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Jul 11th, 2014
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Palladium also made a big update on how things are going post-Kickstarter for their Robotech RPG Tactics campaign.

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From the update:

For a few weeks now we have been holding off on announcing when we thought Robotech® RPG Tactics™ “should” arrive from China and begin to ship to our 5,200+ Kickstarter backers. I am so glad we did, because the last several weeks have been crazy and that date has changed many, many times.

The reasons for that are many, but the big one is I don’t think people realize how many components and moving parts there are to making Robotech® RPG Tactics™. As I wrote in a Murmur from the Megaverse® the other day, there are so many print and manufacturing elements that there are three or four different factories (including the printer) making the many component pieces – the rule book, stat cards of varying types and sizes, the dice, Command Point tokens, the actual game pieces, instruction sheets, packaging, prints, etc. – and then it all needs to be printed, trimmed, molded, pressed, gathered, collated, packaged, shrink-wrapped, and boxed and skidded for shipping! Half of it gets transported from one factory and collated at another. A delay or snafu anywhere along the way can delay things 1-4 days each time. Then we need to hit the oceanic ship dates in China, see it arrive on time in the USA, pass Customs without delay, and get it trucked to the Palladium warehouse to be unloaded, sorted, repacked and shipped to YOU. That’s a lot of moving parts, and we are new to all of it! Fear not, we’re on top of things and have some good news to share.

Here is the plan: This is how things are looking as I write this, barring any unexpected delays. Which could happen. Even a short delay could change everything you are about to read, so keep your fingers and toes crossed.

Palladium will be receiving a container of product every week to ten days starting in August! The first container should leave China July 17, arrive at port in Los Angeles July 31, and ship to Palladium by truck and arrive at our warehouse on August 8 or so.

As soon as we get the product, we will start shipping to our valued Kickstarter supporters. Julius and Alex will continue to ship product while the rest of us are at Gen Con Indy. When we return from Gen Con, we’ll be assembling a small army of volunteers to help us pull Kickstarter orders and ship ‘em out as fast as we can. Our second container of Robotech® RPG Tactics™ product should also be arriving that same week.

PLEASE NOTE: We do plan to bring a selection of Robotech® RPG Tactics™ Wave One product for display and sale at Gen Con Indy. I know that will disappoint some of our Kickstarter supporters, but it is vital to successfully kickoff the launch of this exciting new product line. Gen Con Indy is the San Diego Comic Con of gaming. Not only are there tens of thousands of gamers, but a lot of media. We NEED it to be there, and for sale, to create buzz and take advantage of the excitement that will generate. I hope our backers understand this. We appreciate you, but we also need to do what’s right for the future of this product line. That will benefit you and all Robotech® fans for years to come.

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  • Zarathud

    This is causing a high level of unrest among the backers (see KS comments) as Palladium specifically commented in KS updates that backers would receive product first (not to mention that the product is already 8-9 months late even though it was “nearly complete” at KS launch). Note that backers going to Gencon cannot pick up their product there, although people will be able to buy it there. This hasn’t gotten me that upset, although I can see how it is a bad decision since it is alienating so many of their core audience. I understand the need to promote the game, but they don’t actually need to sell the game at the con to promote it – they can run demoes, take pre-orders, etc.

    • John Maddening

      Agreed 100%. I’m in to them for a lot of money, and while I’ve been annoyed at both the time it’s taking and the petty public bickering between Palladium and Ninja Division, I’ve still been planning on getting more minis as they’re released.

      After this, though (taking product to sell GenCon, not allowing for backer pickup), I’m done. Ive got the core set and a bunch of add-ons that I have no doubt I’ll receive…eventually, that will be it. I’m not going to buy any more minis at retail, and I’m not going to support another Kickstarter from these folks again.

  • guges

    This is also the second time they have done this with a Kickstarter. This is why I bailed on these guys and got out. Unbelievable that a company as big and as old as Palladium is so incompetent.

    • BaconSlayer

      Actually, this fits in fairly well with Palladium’s past.

      • Soulfinger

        Is Palladium actually big? It is a recognized company, but even at its largest, it has always been so centralized as to be synonymous with Kevin Siembieda. I’d always thought of them as getting by with a smaller, dedicated following.

        • odinsgrandson

          That sounds accurate to me. I know some dedicated Palladium fans, but not tons of them.

  • wormwoode

    Yeah, this is bad news all the way around. It’s like they only know how to get bad PR. Shame. Could’ve been a fun product, but there’s so much bad vibes and disappointment around the project, I can’t imagine it doing too well at retail. Not well enough to sustain itself as a long term line, anyway.

    The boxes they’re hoping to sell at Gencon? They’re already sold. Bought and paid for by people who are expressly not even allowed to come and pick them up. It’s just bad business. The folks who cough up over a million bucks to see this toy made? That’s your target audience. That’s your core. Make enough to get the thing into production, budget cleverly and precisely, and get them excited enough to sustain it via retail for years to come. Pissing off even a small percentage of them is a terrible idea- and it looks like more than a small percentage of backers are bummed.

    • PanzerKraken

      They obviously made more box sets than simply what the kickstarter afforded them. The whole project was to get the product on store shelves as well as to backers. Those copies sold at Gencon won’t be backer copies.

      It’s just bad show for them to be giving others first dibs on the game we backed.

  • Captain Pike

    Palladium selling at GenCon when they have not fulfilled their KS is a poor and very short sighted decision. Yes they can make a profit selling as GenCon. Will that $$$ offset the huge amount of ill-will it gets them with their 5000+ KS supporters/customers? Anyone with commons sense says no. Kevin Siembieda says yes apparently.

  • Mr. Blackheart

    I am also in for a lot of cash, but I am fine with then taking 200-odd Non-Kickstarter retail sets to sell to the masses and gain some publicity and generate some excitement for the launch, so that this game has a shot at being around for a while. It’s not some Kickstarters that have made it to retail BEFORE all the backers got a copy. If that happens here then I be upset.

    Am I disappointed them missed the release dates so badly? Yes I am. Am I surprised? Not one bit. For good or ill Kickstarter is not a retail outlet.

    Sadly the norm is to be very, very late. My only concern is that the end product is good. OGRE was almost a year late and worth it. Sedition Wars was late and not very good. With a new and unknown project it is always a gamble.

    The big test will be to see how soon after Gencon we get our huge pile of toys.

  • Mr. Blackheart

    Ah look, no edit button. Sorry for the huge amount of typos.