Mantic launches Dungeon Saga board game Kickstarter

By Polar_Bear
In Board Games
Aug 4th, 2014
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Mantic has launched their Kickstarter campaign for Dungeon Saga: The Dwarf King’s Quest board game. They funded in 4 minutes, so it’s on to stretch goals for the next 27 days.

Dungeon Saga

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From the campaign:

Dungeon Saga: The Dwarf King’s Quest is the dungeon adventure board game for 2-5 players, ages 13 and up, written by Jake Thornton and produced by Mantic Games.

Set in the Dwarfen Hold of Dolgarth, one player will take on the role of Mortibris and command the Undead in a battle against mighty heroes. These adventurers can be split between up to 4 players, or led by just one. You’ll use the simple rules to play through the game’s exciting scenarios, before eventually facing off against the Necromancer in a final showdown!

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  • wormwoode

    First unlocked hero fig? Felecia Day in her “the Guild” outfit. Appears to be unlicensed.

    Since her “character” is from ” Not-WoW”, and this is “Not-Felicia”, does that make it a Knock-Off-Off or something?

    • odinsgrandson

      With most properties, I understand that the rights aren’t to be had. But I’d bet Felicia would be happy to have some official minis made of her and the Guildies.

    • Cergorach

      No offense to Felicia, but if that image looked like Felicia, she would need a large breast enlargement.

      I’m also wondering if we now should pay royalties on any red haired sorceress with a staff and a short skirt? I think there is prior art on that, maybe Felicia should pay a license fee to whoever came up with the red haired sorceress persona back in the seventies…

  • surprize

    I think there are two issues here with the general “pile it high, sell it cheap” kickstarter model.

    The first is that the whole sell is dishonest in that it purports to be giving you ‘free stuff’ as stretch goals when the initial offer here patently isn’t a game that would go to manufacture. If monopoly was a mantic/cmon kickstarter the initial goal would be $5k and all but two of the playing pieces and all the houses/hotels would be “stretch goals”. Essentially if this was a standard retail offer, certainly in the UK, there is a good chance there would be trading standards issues.

    The second is the cultural references. Mantic, as arch-imitators, seem to be going down the cmon route of making game pieces that look like characters from something else. Now what’s weird here to me is that these are pretty niche references in most of these kickstarters, and they are also never “official”. This suggests to me that the companies in question are either too cheap, or too lazy to obtain proper permission, and yet, they are only picking references which are less likely to bring litigation into play. Hence we never seem to see these tongue-in-cheek “homages” to Marvel, Disney, LoTR, GoT, Starwars, etc, etc. (The Firefly ones in Sedition Wars were probably the closest, but the actual models were so far away from looking like anyone from the series they probably got away with it)

    The whole thing just smacks of shabby business tactics for me. It’s a real shame because I want to like Mantic. Supported them a lot initially, but fallen out of love for them since they became the Aldi of wargaming.

    • blkdymnd

      You would get the hotels and houses, but they’d be flat cardboard counters and a stretch goal would ‘upgrade’ them to 3d plastic houses 🙂

  • Lexthilian

    I would have to agree with “surprise” on some of these kick starters, with their celebrity knock-offs. But to be honest, until I saw these recent posts here, I had no idea who “Felicia” was, and now that I do….. I really couldn’t care less who she is or having a mini of her for that matter.

  • Jim Bailey from Grindhouse Games here. I just wanted to say that I have had dealings with Mantic over minor unintentional IP issues and Ronnie is a super honest and forthright dude who is doing his best to get cool games made…cool games that are not forthcoming from the mega conglomerates who’s IP you reference. Furthermore, these efforts put money in the pockets of worthy games designers, miniatures designers. and artists, not to mention regular folks packing boxes. Intellectual property is something that has been discussed ad nauseum over the years on this site. I think we should look closely again at those discussions and indeed international and national legal standards prior to casting aspersions. I respect your opinions Surprize… really I do. I just think a little perspective is in order. Peace man!

  • grimbergen

    The deadzone rules were pretty good, but not so much their original dungeon crawl game (cant’ remember the name). Hopefully this one is improved from that. Also good to hear most game game pieces are not restic.

    Main issue I have is the boards… the map tiles from their previous dungeon came was very cheap looking. Can’t pin it down… the artwork is nice, but the final product just does not evoke the look/feel of a cool dungeon that the descent or even original warhammer quest tiles gave.