Kingmaker Games launchs War Prime Kickstarter

By Polar_Bear
In Crowdfunding
Jun 24th, 2014

Kingmaker Games has their War Prime Kickstarter up and running now.



From the campaign:

You can use War Prime miniatures to play all your favorite tabletop games, or you can grab our own rule set. When War Prime is funded (and it is ready) our game rules will be available online for FREE, so anyone can join the intergalactic war without spending a ton of extra cash.

We will have more information about our game in upcoming newsletters and future videos.

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  • odinsgrandson

    The aesthetic looks far less 40k than it did last time we heard from them. And I’m not sure that they changed all that much.

  • blkdymnd

    It felt like an overreaction on the last article. Granted, the artwork was very reminiscent, but nothing else had screamed 40k. If they can replicate their concepts, then they actually have a cool looking line of models.

    • 4tonmantis

      It was that initial art. I think we’ll have to see how this unfolds. The prototypes they’re showing are hard to get a read on. They need to get some studio quality painters on that asap..

  • the resin model they showed looked very low definition. they’ve got great concept work but the storyline and the models feel very low level.

    • to be fair the new sculpts of the heavier soldier with the sword and the LMG look a lot better. those models have more flat areas though so detail isn’t as much of an issue.

      I also never trust painted minis as I’ve seen details that look 3d added to minis that were never there.

  • Dr.Falkenhayn

    they look like Warzone Brotherhood

  • Argate

    Yes, their helmet look similar to brotherhood, fortunately the artwork showing interesting poses and concepts, warzone resurrection has the most boring poses and concepts I ever seen.

  • I find myself a little dubious about the plastic as have seen a number of other KS campaigns, with a similar goal, that claim plastic but when they fail to attract the big bucks they have to back track and opt for resin. Not that I’m knocking resin.

    The knight style minis just kinda scream 80s to me…perhaps its the power shoulder pads. I could pass on these but the aliens look cool so far.

    • odinsgrandson

      Resin is generally a better material than plastic.

      And I say generally, because there was this one large gaming companies opted to change its whole metal line to a lower quality resin than the industry had seen before.

      But most of the time, resin is way better. For a good example- take a look at some of the Kingdom Death stuff side by side. The resin is demonstrably more detailed- and they’re probably using the best plastics we’ve seen.

      You can compare an average plastic to resin with the Sedition Wars lineup. The difference really shows.

      • Granted but I prefer plastic due to it tending to be more survivable. At least in this house 😀

  • 4tonmantis

    Looks like I might be joining this team.. even if you don’t back this or like it, please keep your fingers crossed for me.. If I do end up joining the team, I will do everything I can to bring these concerns to light..

    • Soulfinger

      Good luck. I hope it works out for you.

      • 4tonmantis

        I appreciate it man, I really need this.

        • Soulfinger

          Drop me a line if you still have my email (I can’t find yours). I can at least point you toward one piddly little source of revenue that would maybe cover your kid’s sock expenses but at least look good on your resume.

          • 4tonmantis

            I will have to search by name.. was your first name:
            f)something else

          • 4tonmantis

            nevermind, I found it… organizational skills ftw!

          • For future reference for everyone, though, his first name is Consuela.

          • Soulfinger

            I am very pretty.

  • Chameleon

    I kinda like the miniatures, but the ETA of June 2015 tells me someone should have completed a bit more prep work before launching this.

    • Sisyphus

      Nah… maybe they’re being realistic. Everyone gets the “Chinese lie” when the manufacturers say

      “Oh yes… 6 months, nooooo problems”

      I have friends who handle manufacturing jobs in China. They know the important factor is the owner and/or manager. If he’s Mainland Chinese, they automatically tell their company to expect anywhere from 50% to double time for production.

  • 4tonmantis

    So it looks like this Kickstarter has been put on hold. I think they went in half-cocked and realized quickly that they were approaching things from a bad angle. Hope they get it sorted and get this up and going.

    • Soulfinger

      Better for that to happen before the KS ends than afterwards.

      • 4tonmantis

        I agree. I backed one that swore up and down on an extremely fast delivery. They had all manner of explanation about how it would be achieved.. then boom.. it finishes and they communicate a little until completely falling off the grid. Finally they dug their heads out and are claiming they’ll be sending out our stuff finally.

        For the Kingmaker guys to realize they were in a bad spot and halt the KS, that speaks well of them as an organization IMO.

        • Soulfinger

          Torn Armor, or one of the countless others? When people cancel a KS project, I always hope it is because they sat back, looked at the math, and said, “Woops!” That means a lesson learned for when they relaunch. In this case, I would expect it was a C&D (justified or not) or them realizing that it would take so very little retouching to avoid any hassles like that.

          The Kickstarters that I am particularly wary of are those with a lot of t-shirts, bumper stickers, and such alongside generous stretch goals. The stretch goals are feasible because their cost per unit drops as the quantity ordered increases. A well planned KS calculates along the lines of, “Okay, now we are selling 1k units, which drops our cost per unit down by two dollars, which covers the additional costs and shipping for the stretch goal.” One way people end up in trouble when they sell the game, the shirt, the stickers, and meet the stretch goal without hitting their quantity goals in any category, or a handful of t-shirts sold with a minimum quantity of 100 from their supplier.

          • 4tonmantis

            It was the 15mm Salamander project.

            On the Kingmaker though.. I looked over the comments. It really seems like a few things happened.
            1)They were lined up to use Defiance for spincasting..and someone clued them in
            2)They didn’t understand everything that would be involved with creating physical product. Many of them seem to be from a video game background.
            3)Their initial interactions with the community, especially other small owners got off on a bad foot and needs a bit of care.
            4)The initial funding and response was low enough to give them pause. At least a few people mentioned that they should probably have had a bit more (and higher quality) in the way of prototypes. Some people directly said this while others eluded to it.

            I don’t know if a C&D was issued or not but if it was I would imagine they would probably take that in with other adjustments necessary for them to get this off on the right foot. IMO they would also benefit from hyping this before launching. Develop a few more assets and have something with real meat to show. I like the idea.. it strikes me as a universe similar to 40k but different enough to not get stuck in that WWII aesthetic mixed with a bunch of other things that don’t make sense.

          • 4tonmantis

            Yeah, I always offer the suggestion to smaller kickstarters that they should take it easy on the stretch goals and just focus on a solid project. I talked quite a bit with Wayne (I think) from Battle Systems and he seemed to really key in on a lot of what I had to say. They blew way up and he wanted to go stretch goal crazy but I was like “dude, you gotta leave some to pay the bills”.
            I can’t imagine what it’s like to have a Kickstarter take off like that.. you probably feel like you won the lotto with the $$$ figures.. but you have to remember that the money has to go where it’s intended first and foremost.

  • grimbergen

    So are you still working with the team to continue the KS at a later date?

    • 4tonmantis

      When I know more about that I’ll post it up 🙂

      • 4tonmantis

        Just to be clear though, I haven’t yet joined any capacity of this. I have to get back in touch. I stepped back to let things settle after they canceled it and will be getting back in touch early next week.