Heroes of Normandie from Devil Pig Games up on Kickstarter

By Polar_Bear
In Crowdfunding
Mar 10th, 2013
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Devil Pig Games launched their Kickstarter in order to fund their WWII-inspired Heroes of Normandie game.

From the campaign:

A few years ago, we set the galaxy on fire with “Frontiers”.Time has come now to offer you the next step of “Frontiers” evolution…

“Heroes of Normandie”, a game of heroic tactical warfare inspired by Hollywood world war II movies (with blood, guts and devil pigs…).

The time is summer 1944. The Sun shines on Normandie hedgerows (yes, we write it Normandie and not Normandy because we are damn french). Gentle wind, carpets of bright flowers, and in the background, the romantic staccato of machine gun fire in the morning. In those so typical Normandie’s landscapes, thousands of men are about to fight. And die. Bravely like heroes, or cowardly like wussies.

Here at Devil Pig Games, we don’t give a shit about wussies. We are only concerned by heroes, those you see in holywood golden age’s war movies : A bridge too far, The longest day, Dirty Dozen, Patton, Kelly’s heroes and, more recently, Save Private Ryan, Band of Brothers and Inglorious Basterds.

Here lies our inspiration, here is what we have to offer : blood and guts.

We took “Frontiers” basic system and gave it a twitch or two. This system got its success in it’s time thanks to its raw efficiency and many players enjoyed countless games of galactic rampage. But we wanted to give it more simplicity in some of its basics, and depth in its playability (easier said than done).
We will give you rhythm, we will give you explosive battles, we will give you the pleasure to butcher your enemies through MG42 walls of lead and to crush nazi bastards under tons of shells.

We endured years of hard work (6 years to say the truth), thoughts, doubts, P500 or not ? Self edition ? Then came Kickstarter, such a f… good idea that we decided to give it a try and exploit it shamelessly.

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  • blkdymnd

    Frontiers was a very underrated game that could have been a lot more. That said, this new evolution is doing trendy pulp WWII, but a £90 sweet spot for top-down cardboard templates is a very expensive launch point, even at good quality. You had Rivet Wars and Dust Tactics that give similar in model form for cheaper. You have KS’s like Torn Armor that have a bevy of great plastic minis for about that much. I guess it’ll depend on the gamer and what they prefer, but I wouldn’t pay more than $75 USD for the sweet spot on this KS. And I loved Frontiers.

    • CaseyJone5

      unfortunately this looks like another case of preordering a game ay msrp rather than “crowd funding” a project.

      • omphalos

        It’s definitly not one of those cases.
        The authors tried to find a way to fund the game during 6 years (they even thought Print and play but were persuade not to). They create Devil Pig Game company just for this.
        They said clearly that right now, if the game is not funded, the game will probably never makes it to the stores.

        • blkdymnd

          I personally would have rather seen them streamline and try to fund Frontiers with the print and play expansions made into actual components. I have Weird War and WWII gaming stuff coming out my ears now.

  • JRacel

    I looked at this and though it looked pretty good until I saw the price and then my interest faded. I understand the upstart cost for something like this, so I see that getting things into print for the first time will be expensive, but I think this may be a little too much for most people. I hope they do well, but I just can;t back this one.

    • omphalos

      The 45£ pledge is for the complete game (2 armies for 2 players). I think it’s affordable.
      The “sweet spot” at 90£ is more expensive, that’s true. But, to be franck, it more than doubles the number of units of the game box (the game include 6 punchboards for units, this pledge add 9 more)… and this is without counting the stretch goals.

      • grimbergen

        that’s the price normally asked for a game with lots of plastic figures. a bit high, especially considering shipping costs to the US (even for Europe there is no free shipping??)

  • CaseyJone5

    this play like memoir 44?

  • blkdymnd

    Frontiers played like a tabletop wargame with round 2d top-down view units, large oval for vehicles. All the buildings and terrain were 2d as well. This new evolution looks to have made everything square on a grid (Frontiers had no grid, it was actual measured movement) and streamlined a bit. I would say its not like Memoir, but more like Dust without 3d models.

    • CaseyJone5

      ah ok. the cards and grid just instantly reminded me of memoir / panzer general

  • blkdymnd

    Wow, and it’s £20 more pounds in shipping to the US. definitely out

  • metalsifter

    I’m in. The game sounds interesting enough and I like the idea of a WW2 game based around heroes.

    I do have one question though, do you think they got a license to use the likenesses and character names from Dirty Dozen to sell the game? The hand drawn cards I know are a “parody” but they are also using pics and names from the movie itself.\

    Just curious since IP had been a hot issue in wargaming for a while now.

    • Soulfinger

      Apparently, you can do whatever you want and nobody, outside of GW, cares at this point. I refrained from pledging money to a couple KS because I expected them to receive a cease-and-desist well before the goods could ship, but I suppose it isn’t worth the effort and expense for companies like MGM or Disney to shake a few dimes out of the pockets of minor players in an industry well off their radar . . . yet.

      I am sure that the IP infringement issue will reach critical mass some day whenever it gets some public attention outside the gamer community or some big IP holder feels it is losing revenue and maybe this is the next Napster type crusade to pursue. When that happens, I expect that there will be lawsuits for everyone.

  • marcus

    I’m at the Samson Posey level. I really hope you guys make your funding goal. It’s been a long time coming.

  • Soulfinger

    Far too little bang for the buck for me, but it does motivate me to finally pick up Frontiers.

  • Nivanti

    I’d love to back this and still might, yep £90 is expensive for just card especially when £75 will get you a starter army for bolt action. Love the idea, shipping is well fubar but no different to sails of glory canning Europe $50 postage.

    I’m still on the fence, will watch. Frontiers score is quite low on BGG so is this a true reflection? Will the same problems exist for this game?

    • omphalos

      Frontiers was always seriously underated for no good reason. It had several problem when it came out :
      – First of all, it’s basically a miniature game without miniatures, so the miniatures lovers didn’t liked it and the boardgamer thought it was to much like a stretegy miniature game.
      – No support from the retailer (Asmodee) in spite of the effort of the creators giving free print to play expansion
      – The packaging, while it was full of stuff, was to small for the price and the visibility in the shops (it’s why now you can find some game box almost empty, with some cards, but the price is according to the size of the box)

  • omphalos

    The sketch goal program for Heroes of Normandie just gets improve :
    Now their is a plan for some sketch goals for every pledge levels
    This include the first one (35, 000 £) that was made much more interesting with :
    + 3 new two sided tiles set
    + 1 battlefield terrain set
    + Extra units & vehicules set 1

  • SGTclem

    Omphalos was faster than me. I wanted to tell you the news… So, let us know what you think about it.

    • grimbergen

      getting there… I pledged but will cancel unless a lot of strectch goals with free stuff are reached. I mean ~$164 (with shipping) is a bit much.

      The box set looks like you get only about 1/3 or 1/4 the amount of maps/counters/etc that other entry-level ww2 games like Lock n Load, Conflict of Heroes, combat commander which cost a lot less.

      It might be heavy weight/large cardstock, but that doesn’t add to the gameplay value except for eyecandy. Also not sure how many scenarios or if it’s a combination of freeform gaming that you get.

      Basically I’m gonna need to see about all the revealed stretch goal stuff unlocked and added for free (plus another equal amount more unlocked) in order to not cancel my pledge.

      I might be in the minority… according to kicktraq if the momentum continues it could be nearly 400% funded.

  • JRacel

    I may take another look based on the new stretch goals.

  • Nivanti

    I hope the card is high quality, can’t be dealing with sedition wars cheapness !

  • SGTclem

    Yes we focused on quality. tokens are heavy, cards aren’t cheap, tiles are heavier… The games you named are good even excellent. But, and i’m sorry, also ugly. We wanted to provide players a feeling close to the minis games without minis. So, yes, the quality (design and material) is a part of the game experience.

    Because i understand your position, Grimbergen, but because we are confident, i guess that in september you’ll receive a big box full of candies…

  • Talarius

    Frontiers is SUCH a fun game (so much so, I own two copies). I’ve got all their Print-and-play files downloaded and have wished so many times that the game designers had been able to get those produced professionally.

    I’m glad to see this game finally getting produced but oof! that is a steep pricetag. :-/ If the campaign goes really well, I will be sooo tempted to jump in. sigh I thought I was done with Kickstarter for a stretch; this might suck me in. I’ll keep a close eye on it for sure!

    • Talarius

      Ha. “for a stretch”… that was totally unintentional. :-p

  • marcus

    1/3 funded with 46 days to go!! come on Jefferson!!!

  • SGTclem

    i don’t know who’s jefferson is, but Come on Jeff !

  • marcus

    you never watched the Dirty Dozen? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0weydVs3t2Y

  • SGTclem

    oups, sorry…

  • marcus

    thats ok I’ve seen that movie dozens of time anI never new there first names till now 🙂