Dust Devils holding 70th anniversary of D-Day event

By Polar_Bear
In Events
May 6th, 2014

Dust Devils will be having events going on in recognition of the 70th anniversary of the D-Day landings.



From the announcement:

D-Day 2014 a Dust Devils International (DDI) three day event June 6th, 7th and 8th dedicated to 70th Anniversary of the Normandy Landings. DDI members will be hosting Dust Tactics and Warfare gaming events. There will be a variety of different events, including Tournaments, Demos, and Special Campaigns. Events will be hosted at local game stores and gaming conventions over these dates.

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  • Soulfinger

    Remember your grandfather’s sacrifice and the memory of 425,000 killed, wounded, or missing soldiers by playing with Nazi zombie toys. Keeping it classy!

    • blkdymnd

      If Nazi’s were a part of Dust, but Paolo removed them from the alt timeline

      • Soulfinger

        So, it is Axis but not Nazis? Go ahead and replace “Nazi zombie toys” with “Recon Robots” or what-have-you then. Having family who lived through that war, both fighting and in concentration camps, I always find it a bit of a disconnect when people commemorate hundreds of thousands of deaths by playing a fantasy game or releasing a new flavor of Pop Tart. It’s a cheap marketing ploy, and the trivialization of all that suffering angers me. It’s like dedicating a WH40k youth league event to the tragedy of child soldiers.

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  • Remember, kids, leave personal attacks at the door.

    You can say, “I don’t like the idea behind this event” and “I think the idea behind this event is fine” but not call each other names.

  • grimbergen

    Soul – I understand your sentiment but want know more your thoughts on this. The thing is, how is alternate universe ww2 german zombies any more denigrating than flames of war or any other ww2 game where someone can play as the germans and win the war? I mainly picked FOW since there are lots of posts of that here and I don’t see any comments against that as fantasy disrespecting historical events and sacrifices.

    Being Chinese with both grandfathers who fought and families suffered a lot in the war with the Japanese I kind of have a connection but definitely nothing to your level. But I don’t have anything against games exploring fantasies with on a thin basis on the pacific war/history.

    I guess my main question is, do you have a distinction ww2 games/themes/media? To me, if you think dust crosses the line, than that would mean anything other than purely fact-based literature or documentary/docudramas would be unacceptable also.

    • Soulfinger

      Apparently, my initial couple of posts were easy to misunderstand. I clarified in the follow-up, but there was also some schoolin’ going on about framing arguments with false dilemmas, so . . . this is going to be a long answer — reealll long.

      I don’t have a problem with Dust. I don’t think it crosses any line. I was referring to that marketing scheme of dedicating a product or event to a holiday or historic anniversary. For example, I don’t like department stores having Memorial Day sales. The implication is that the best way to honor fallen soldiers is to purchase your underwear at 20% off at Macys. I understand why businesses have these sales, but that people don’t find them distasteful perhaps reflects a lack of perspective. I mean, in this case, did the event organizers invite over some nonagenarian veterans from the nursing home to witness and be honored by this event dedicated to their experience in WWII? I bet they’d be super excited about it, right? Spectre Miniatures could probably do something similar to celebrate Martin Luther King Day (again, nothing against their products).

      It didn’t bother me when I was younger and thought WWII was awesome to read about, but my grandfather (who fought in the Pacific) started telling me stories not long before he died about things like stepping away from camp to go to the bathroom only to find everyone’s severed heads on stakes when he returned. I know some people can read that and say, “COOL!” My other grandfather (and I should clarify, that side of my family was in a concentration camp, not an extermination camp, as the two are often confused) likewise opened up shortly before his death about his experiences during the war. Maybe it is good for me to have a day out of the year to take a break from shopping to think about that and contemplate how terrible war is and the sacrifices my family made.

      Understand that I am not particularly patriotic, and I don’t place the sacrifice of a soldier above that of a coal miner who dies so I can power my Xbox. For me, it really is more a matter of human experience. I have neighbors who have an anxiety attack when they see a black leather jacket. I have family in Latvia who visited after the fall of the Soviet Union but only felt comfortable having an earnest conversation sitting under a blanket in a separate room from everyone else. I’d read extensively about all of that, but it took these personal connections to really give me any semblance of an understanding. More than that, I’ve had a lot of friends and family die in a relatively short time span — sat with them while they died in two cases. Add to that, my wife nearly died, and so did my daughter, so that stopped being an abstract concept for me. Living out of a children’s hospital for a year, I saw a lot of people grieving and suffering in a way that most people just can’t appreciate. I also witnessed some of the greatest acts of human goodness and decency that I’ve ever seen. It made me feel differently about a lot of things.

      And it’s funny that you bring up Flames of War, because it was a post on this site about Nazi dice that got me rethinking my perspective on gaming to begin with. In that case, I realized I would be ashamed to own something like that, considering my grandparents and neighbors. All those tanks that I thought were so bad-ass as a kid, what would my neighbor think of me if I had collected an army of them? What would I tell him? “It’s a game we play. I try to win as the Nazis so . . . I can exterminate your . . . race . . .” I think some gamers get upset about bringing up a notion like that because they have successfully divorced the human element from the pageantry and technological appeal of the Nazi war machine with an argument like, “It’s just a game, and I play the bad guys, which is no worse than playing the Empire in Star Wars or Nightmare Moon in My Little Pony.” I don’t fault them, but it is a saddening reminder that the atrocities of the past are less fresh in our memories with each passing year. The people who survived them die off, and pop culture and commercialism will gradually dull our sensibilities until it is possible for those very same things to happen again . . . and again . . . and again. There is a quote from Adolf Hitler in which he justifies the eradication of the Poles, saying, “Who still talks nowadays of the extermination of the Armenians?” Some people debate the authenticity of that quote, but it is applicable for my purposes in that who does remember that in 2014? Probably as many people as will remember the Holocaust in 2054 when jokes about concentration camps transcend South Park to feature prominently in whatever Rob Schneider, David Spade love clone show on ABC or NBC.

      So, I play violent video, board, war, and role playing games. “I’ve… seen things you people wouldn’t believe . . . Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate.” I’m not going for high and mighty here.

      • grimbergen

        Excellent points, I agree in every way.

        • Soulfinger


      • Thank you for sharing that.