CMON Launches A Song of Ice and Fire: Tabletop Miniatures Game Kickstarter

By Polar_Bear
In A Song of Ice and Fire
Jul 25th, 2017
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Well, this is one that a lot of you have been anticipating, I’m sure. CMON has launched their Kickstarter campaign for A Song of Ice and Fire: Tabletop Miniatures Game. In the game, players take control of the forces of one of the major Houses of Westeros. The starter set brings you House Stark versus House Lannister. The figures are pre-assembled and in colored plastic, so you can tell what faction they work for at a glance. The starter has plenty to get you going, including various options for unit attachments and who players can use as their army’s commander.

From the campaign:

A Song of Ice & Fire: Tabletop Miniatures Game is a competitive miniatures game for two or more players. Each player controls one of the Great Houses of Westeros, commanding battlefield units, recruiting legendary Heroes, and manipulating the political stage, in the attempt to claim the greatest prize of all: The Iron Throne. Featuring House Stark and House Lannister, the Starter Set comes with over one hundred amazing, preassembled miniatures that are ready to play out of the box! All-new sculpts are based off original art created for the game by our crew under the direct supervision of George R.R. Martin and Dark Sword Miniatures, to ensure that the game delivers what fans have been envisioning for years.

The Stark vs Lannister Starter Set is a perfect introduction to a new miniatures game. With accessible and streamlined gameplay designed by Eric M. Lang and Michael Shinall, A Song of Ice and Fire: Tabletop Miniatures Game features 5 different Game Modes, Army Building and Customization options, and choices of Commanders and Attachments. This Set packs a lot of gameplay for 2 players!

The campaign’s up and running now and is set to go for another 21 days.

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  • BDub

    Nope. They wont get one red cent from me till I have Massive Darkness in my hands. I didnt back The Z:BP Orcs expansion either for the same reason. CMON needs to deliver in a more timely manner if they want people to commit large sums way in advance, and perhaps having fewer KSs going at once might keep you focused on their commitments.

    • sgoodell

      Not to mention $150 for this game is just absolutely ridiculous. With the standard CMON campaign, you can count on at least 10 add-ons, and adding $150 to the price of the game making it a $300 purchase.

      I mean seriously Game of Thrones is good, but $300 for a tabletop game?

      Then again, people bought up zombicide GH like crazy, and it’s barely a reskin of the base Zombicide BP.

      • Cergorach

        While $300 is a lot of money for sure, for two whole armies and ALL units for those two factions, that is peanuts! People are mostly paying for the preassembled miniatures, and if ‘recent’ CMoN releases are any indication, pretty HQ. What do you think you’ll pay for 114 GW minis at the moment, including characters? A lot more then $150. 10 addons for $150? Does GW or FFG do that? Often three times as expensive then CMoN per mini…

        It isn’t cheap, but it’s not expensive either if you know what the competition costs. Even within their own releases they are consistent. The original BP from two years ago was $150 for 103 miniatures, now you get 104 for $150…

        But at the current amount BP already had 33 extra miniatures, currently we only have 10. But at $750k we would have 22 vs. 40, quickly gaining on BP… With more units added, I suspect that GoT will end up with more minis the BP for your $150.

        I’m honestly considering 2-3 pledges for more choice in units…

    • Ghool

      I have to agree here. The KS campaigns are so fast furious that there is no way I can keep up unless I start making 5x as much.
      And seriously, I’d back more projects if they weren’t one after the other like this. I’ve barely recovered from Moloch, and there has been 3 more campaigns since. Even a base pledge is costing me $200CAD per game.

      They need to space out the campaigns a bit more to give people recovery time. My guess they’re putting them out so fast is to keep the hype-based impulse buying spree going month after month.

      • BDub

        It does get expensive, but even leaving that aside, for me its more about not giving someone money for a new thing when they havent delivered the old thing yet. Feels foolish and risky – why would you ask it of your customers?

        • Davos Seaworth

          Maybe, but when has CMON not delivered on a product? They may be late (and compound the irritation with a lack of communication skills) but I would say there isn’t a more bulletproof KS publisher than CMON.

          You can certainly wait for retail if the KS puts you off.

          • BDub

            All true,its just that when you have money out on three as yet undelivered CMOM KSs, you start to wonder, “hmm, maybe this isnt a good idea. Maybe I just hang onto my money and use it to buy something I can play right here and now.”

      • Cergorach

        Less complaining here, and either more working to fund the next KS or learning more to get more per hour you work. 😉

        Yes KS is expensive, but do you buy everything GW or FFG makes? Do you feel compelled (like me ;-), then you might have to admit you have a problem…

        Miniature wargames are expensive, but they are the holy grail for manufacturers. This set is only for two players, BP plays 1-6 with only one player owning the game. Also, one player might buy multiples of one unit… That might potentially be 3-9 times the amount people spend on your game, while your costs don’t go up significantly.

        • Ghool

          I think games in general are expensive, yes. I’m also not foreign nor averse to spending money on a wargame, and understand what kind of financial burden they can be on players.

          Nor do I feel compelled to buy everything. But, damn, CMON has been putting out some great stuff lately which I regret not being able to afford. It might not be everyone’s situation, but it certainly is worthy of discussion.

          I had to pass on Rising Sun simply because I couldn’t afford it! Had it come out a month later, or the PM had stayed open longer, I could have went for it. But, such is life. I will miss painting that Godzill…er…Kaiju lizard though.

          This game though? I have no interest in, but do have interest in how it develops. Thus, I’m here discussing.

          • odinsgrandson

            Funny thing- I love Dark Sword minis. I’m honestly not a Westeros fan (nothing against it, just haven’t gotten around to reading George’s books). But I am a big Tom Meier fan, and I love the sculpts he’s done for them.

            Where does that put me? Well, I’m not in on this kickstarter, but I wish them tremendous success.

        • odinsgrandson

          Ok- I know the way I was cured of my desire to get everything.

          Paint it all. Don’t play with unpainted minis, ever. And when you want a new huge project, get some older project finished before you buy it.

          Sure- games are expensive and all, but I can easily afford all the minis I have time to paint up (even if I pay full price for them).

    • Matt

      I don’t care for this KS for several reasons.
      1) Only two factions in the game, let alone the starter box. I have to find someone else who would want to play the other faction from what I would want. No other choices. This makes it a hard sell to my fellow gamers.
      2) The Lannister faction is really limited being all infantry. Could get stale quickly.
      3) The details are soft. The chain mail is flat and lifeless. Many of the miniatures are well posed but the ‘meh’ of the detailing and sculpting makes them boring.
      4) Not enough choice in units. Sure they now have pack masters but with only 4 cavalry for one box, all for one side, doesn’t seem like there are any real ranged units… it is just a very monotone force selection. Run up slowly and punch the guy. To get a nice variation of cavalry for the one team that can take it you’d need 2 or probably 3 boxes and now the other side is just inundated in tons of foot slogging, punch you in the face with their halberds or sword infantry. I hope the Lannister player enjoys troop choice constraints.
      5) That cavalry. I want to like it but the horses are walking, the guys are ready to fight but don’t look like they are in combat yet. So… what stage of the battle are they in? And again soft details and terrible chain mail.
      6) This gets to one of the counter complaints. If I were for whatever reason playing AoS, KoW or some similarly scaled fantasy game by the time I bought enough boxes of this to run some cavalry I’d have $225 to spend on one of those other games and I could choose the units I wanted. I would end up with either much better looking miniatures in GW’s case or a lot of miniatures of the unit types I want to run with Mantic. Now I have played WHF back in the day but then units were cheaper and when I got into it later on you could get things from eBay or Bartertown so the cost was much lower. Then AoS came out and the price was criminally low for some armies on such sites.
      I don’t bring up RuneWars because ugh I find it terrible. From FFG I’ve enjoyed X-Wing at times and Armada for their miniatures which are expensive but come pre-painted and have a really good rules system.

      Neutral wise but not a selling point is the rules seem fine. They aren’t selling me on the game as they seem pretty standard and similar to other games in movement and combat at least.

      On the plus side whoever they hired to paint their minis did an amazing job. That Greatjon Umber looks incredible with that paint job compared to the 3D render.

  • Davos Seaworth

    Pfft… nobody’s gonna buy this except those internet weirdos with Game Of Thrones user names. Oh, wait…

    • Cergorach

      There are a LOT of those…