Comments on: Washes and WFB Anniversary rulebook from GW UK

By: T34

T34 — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:00:53 +0000

I know GW has a very very bad, lame, crummy track record with paints (I too have been hoarding old time white caps) and such in the past 8 years or so, but these new washes are pretty amazing. Had a chance to try ‘em out and they are very close to what you’d get if you mixed up your own wash using Vallejo Glaze and whatever color you happened to need. IE, nice, smooth, and matte with no stupid shine. Plus the range of colors is very useful, having more earthy tones and stuff. I don’t have too much/any love for GW, but as a painter these washes are a definite buy.

By: Steel Rabbit

Steel Rabbit — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:27:38 +0000

I dunno… P3’s coming in at one of my favorite paint lines but I’ve been using Citadel since the white-cap days, and with the exception of the ‘twist-caps’ of the late ’90s/early new millennium I still think they’re good.

For the person who had a problem with the ‘black-tops’ perhaps yours are twist-offs? Mine are the flip-caps, and I’ve had a few since they came out and they’re fine!

By: Zac

Zac — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:54:28 +0000

Are they made by Coat D’Arms?

I may be mistaken but Coat D’Arms sold paint and washes formulated by a paint supplier in the UK and that is the same company that supplies the P3 paints and washes.

By: Ken

Ken — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:51:18 +0000

The brand new Citadel Washes have been developed specifically for use on Citadel miniatures. I guess I should stop using flesh wash on my CAV figures, then.

The P3 washes are made by the same company that made the old GW washses IIANM Are they made by Coat D’Arms? I understand they made the old (and best) GW paints (back when they came in pots with white flip-top rubber lids. I still have a bunch, and they work fine (15+ years later).

By: Doc

Doc — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:45:54 +0000

I still use paint produced 15+ years ago… NONE of my “black top” paints lasts more than 3 years….

By: General Hobbs

General Hobbs — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:05:28 +0000

I disagree…the Citadel paints are better then ever. The quality has not gone down at all. If anything, the paint pots are better because you can actually open them! And they don’t dry out like the old screw tops. I knew about 3-4 months ago they were discontinueing the inks and some paints….the new washes are fantastic! I saw them at the local store, and they have great coverage and dry with no glossiness.

By: tuco

tuco — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:32:46 +0000

If they allowed people to stock up on the old stuff, how would they sell the new stuff?

By: Jeffhiatt

Jeffhiatt — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:15:29 +0000

I was kind of ticked off that there was nearly no warning of this. I was at my FLGS the other day and they mentioned that the Citadel inks were being discontinued and they were limited to what was in stock. I really wish that there was a little more lead time on this to allow people to stock up on the old stuff before it went OOP.

By: Doc

Doc — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:21:43 +0000

Zac - you are right - which is one of the reasons I’m switching over to P3 stuff (as well as the local store clearing stock at cost!)

By: Zac

Zac — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:35:15 +0000

The P3 washes are made by the same company that made the old GW washses IIANM

By: Trent McCaffrey

Trent McCaffrey — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:31:24 +0000

Hey GW, the anniversary edition includes the Errata, right? How ’bout a FAQ? ;P

By: Doc

Doc — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:21:39 +0000

oh my! I still have the ORIGINAL washes that Citadel put out in the late 80’s…
Given the decrease in the quality of GW paints in recent years, I’d recommend people picking up the P3 wash line. It will be a far super product if these washed go the way of the paints