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    Editorial

    One of the local gamers here in Vancouver has started to use his real name in message boards and has a .sig that suggests to others that doing so will help build a better community. It seems to be working on our local board as I have noticed people adding their real names to their .sigs.

    I think that for a local message board it is a very good idea. There is nothing quite as odd as going to a local convention and having to figure out which person at the event is “mistwizard16″. We also refer to each other by our “real” names when we get together and so having those displayed on a message board are, I think, one more step to building a robust and healthy gaming community.

    I also happen to be a believer in the idea that anonymity makes some people prone to posting in a fashion that is at odds with their actual personality (warning: the link is to a cartoon that contains some bad words). I’ve said the same thing in more course terms on other message boards.

    From my own experience I know that I tend to be a bit more course and abrasive online than I am in person. People who know me may be hard-pressed to notice the difference but trust me, it is there :-)

    So I would like to suggest an experiment here on TGN. The Wordpress system that runs TGN allows you to edit your profile on the site to change your display name. You can enter your first and last names in this profile as well as a nickname.

    Profile fields

    You can fill in those fields with your actual first and last names or use the nickname field at add a more unique identifier (Bob@Bob’s Games) and then save this date by clicking on the “Update Profile” button at the top or bottom of the page.

    When you go back to the Profile page you can now select one of the options from the “Display name publicly as: ” dropdown menu.

    Dropdown menu

    So while my posts show up as “Zac” that is certainly not what my login name is. I just picked “Zac” as one of the display name options.

    I’d like to urge members who post here to take a moment to update their profile with their real names, or an identifying nickname if they want, and change their display name so we can see what sort of effect this has on the community here at TGN.

    Please note that this is entirely optional. I am just interested to see what effect this has on people’s posts, the tone of the site and the development of the community here.

    52 Responses to “Do real names build community”


    Zac says:

    I just went through the various message boards I am a member of and I have to say that I am surprised that almost none of them have an option to change the name displayed next to your posts.

    Odd.


    Melvin says:

    pixelgeek ? I had no idea you were pixelgeek as well haha :) (tough I cant remember the forum Im referring to.)
    recently I usually sign up just as melvin, but usually my nickname is illustrange (or an added r when I forgot my login details :)) however its not hard to find out my real name, my site is usually in my sig.

    Id say it depends, it may add to a feeling of knowing the other people, but its just a small part of a total that makes a community form, of wich 50% would be the attitude of the people posting there and yourself, so I dont see it as a necessity to built a community feeling.
    tough nicknames are more likely to touch on all our inner-prejudice feelings.
    you look different at someone who is called timothy than someone who is called supercoolkhadorfan_tim_89 or something :) with the latter nickname the chances are highly likely that in the beginning people would just assume to see such a person as a kid who probably wont be saying much serious.


    Jonathan says:

    All righty, sounds like a plan.


    Zac says:

    pixelgeek ? I had no idea you were pixelgeek as well haha :) (tough I cant remember the forum Im referring to.)

    Could be any number. I am on a ton of message boards. :-)

    The pixelgeek account here is a non-admin account I set up to test the site as a registered user without admin privileges. It isn’t used to post comments.


    mathieu says:

    I’ve always used my first name in forums and mailing lists. On forums I frequently use I also have my actual location, and my last name appears either in my sig or somewhere in my profile. I dislike anonymity :)


    evernevermore says:

    Ah yes, the anonymity of the internet and the rise of “geek rage” - it really is entertaining how aggressive and belligerent people can get.

    I will be adding my name next to my screen name but I’ll keep the handle as I have used it for all my online and gaming activities for about 10 years or so. Ive done my best to make sure that when it says Evernevermore its been something Ive said/typed/done

    I can also see the reasoning behind screen names as they give anonymity and sometimes people need that.

    Though I cant seem to get it to change the handle this posted under


    altfritz says:

    Were it not for those that seek to steal identities and exploit people’s info I think it would be a good idea. As it is, the less information that is online the better.


    Mike Cannon says:

    I personally think it’s a good idea. Anonymity provided by nicknames tends to lead to crowd behavior. If your name is attached to a comment, you tend to behave better. I’m on a number of fora and mailing lists and this has generally proven to be the case.

    I have, therefore, updated my profile here.


    oldsalt says:

    I don’t even have the option of using my real name
    too many people have co-opted it.
    that’ the problem with your parent’s naming you after a god.


    Joel says:

    Profile updated… don’t feel any different than I used to… heheh.


    evernevermore (John) says:

    Im all for people at least adding thier old SN as a sig for a while - because you get used to seeing certain opinions from certain people - and Im curious to see if that continues with thier real name listed


    Spooktalker says:

    I’m not sure I agree with the premise that using an online handle makes one anonymous. I’ve always used this handle online and if you know me online, you know me as Spooktalker. My online reputation (if one assumes I have one, which I’m not doing) is built on that name and the name of my site. I could have chosen to go by Ryder, my real name, but I can’t see how that would have changed how I relate to people, or how they relate to me.

    Handles aren’t truly anonymous. They’re personas, but they aren’t any more anonymous than David Bowie was anonymous when he donned the Ziggy Stardust persona. Anonymity is logging in as a guest or a making a new account to do some trolling and then forgetting about it.

    I won’t beat around the bush. Handles are inherently cool. They’re cool for soldiers. They’re cool for gangsters. They’re especially cool for the early hackers like Phiber Optik and Captain Crunch. I actually see the use of handles online as a artifact of those early cyberspace pioneering days. They give a glamour to the online experience. It’s a little bit of fantasy, and you could go as far as to say it lets a person be a little more of who they want to be than they are irl. If your name is Matt or Brian or Jim, a handle gives you “brand recognition” and people might even remember who you are. And perhaps most of all, they let you tell everyone a little about yourself before you even meet. It’s a means of personal expression, like the kind of jeans one wears.

    For instance, I’ve always loved the shaman archetype ever since the sixth grade. To me, “Spooktalker” is a kind of jokey play on “Soothsayer.” It’s a reference from the 1988 Warhammer Armies book. There’s a showcase of Kev “Goblin Master” Adams’s personal orc and goblin army, and one of the goblin shamans is titled “Spooktalker.” So my handle can mean something to people. It might even tell you that I’ve been in it for a long time and have a place in my heart for old school Kev Adams gobbos. Maybe all it does is seem a little jokey-sinister. It might seem dumb. Whatever. The point is I chose it and one way or another it’s evocative.

    Oops, I wrote a novel. ;) At the end of the day, though, I don’t want to disparage your experiment, Zac! Just so you’ll understand if some of us opt out. I look forward to seeing how it goes. Cheers!


    LarkinVain (Joel) says:

    @evermore: That’s an ever better idea.


    toymaker says:

    I’ve been toymaker since I’ve been online. I’m comfortable that way


    Brant says:

    I guess I’ll bite, at least for this site since it tends to have more of a friendly feel due in no small part to Zac being pretty damned strict in what people post (i.e. flaming).

    I don’t even really use the name “m0nk3yb0y” online anymore, mostly because I’ve been seeing other people use it lately. I’ve had to change it throughout the years to remain relatively unique. First it was “monkeyboy” then “m0nk3yb0y” and finally “xm0nk3yb0yx.” The nickname I use mostly now is SuicideCommando.

    The only issue with using real names is that employers are more and more searching google for prospective and current employees names. Even the most pious person can say something they regret online and then it tends to be there permanently unless there is some way to edit it.


    Ray Rivers says:

    Actually…

    I do use my real name.

    On most boards I use “Ray (alias Lava).” Lava being the actual nickname I was given while I was in the Navy (you don’t get to pick), and have used ever since as my gaming name… close on to 30 years now.

    Ray (alias Lava) Rivers


    Thorbjorn Nielsen says:

    I have been using the handle “Clovermilk” for ages. But nowadays it just doesn’t make any sense to me not to use my name.

    I have no real use of a handle.. nothing to hide! :)


    Robert says:

    It’s like suddenly being naked or something.


    Jim Bailey says:

    Great idea Zac! I’ve always preferred this method. I never understood where the whole online persona deal came from. I also think it feels better to say,”I agree with you Joe” rather than “absolutely, Skullcrusher47″

    That being said, there are some truly legendary online personas out there.

    I just prefer to roll this way.

    Jim


    Lord Abaddon of Wormwood says:

    Lord Abaddon of Wormwood is who I am whilst I’m surfing or gaming. Abaddon is almost a person in his own right. He is different to who I am in real life. In the everyday world nothing marks me as a gamer (computer/Tabletop/RPG) so that is why I do not mix the two together.

    Lord Abaddon of Wormwood


    Alan Harrison says:

    Ok, I’ll try it, but it won’t make any difference to my postings. I have been well known as ‘Dagorlad’ on numerous forums over the years and, if anything, changing my username here will aid anonymity rather than reduce it.

    On the sites I commonly frequent, most people know my real name anyway and use it when replying to my posts, and since I am the administrator of a very popular site, my online behaviour is (almost) always respectful, by necessity.


    Gregory Zuniga says:

    I’ll give it a try as well.


    Hunter says:

    Just having a discussion of the effects of anonymity on people hitting the Internet today over lunch. For the longest (1991) I’ve just gone by my alias Wyrdlyng (started on a Mush) as it was easy for me to remember. I do agree that placing a real name does make a stronger connection. It’s harder to call Robert Wallace a ‘tard than OoberPwnz2000. It’s a small psychological switch in the unconscious mind wherein “handles” are less real to most people.

    Oh, Hunter’s what I usually tell most people to call me as my first name, Alex, is too common in my area.


    Trent McCaffrey says:

    I’m impressed!

    I’ve tried to make this point explicitly on other forums only to have it ignored or argued against. Apparently the spirit of TGN is different!

    I respect the decision to use a pseudonym, whether for “coolness” factor, or a true desire to mask one’s online identity. But I deeply appreciate the community-building that happens when gamers meet in-real-life and can draw on a long history of conversations that they’ve had online together.


    Zac says:

    To be fair some message boards and websites don’t allow you the option of a display name like Wordpress does so we have a flexibility to do this but it is nice to see people be open to trying it.


    Dentatus says:

    My real name is already out there in numerous profiles, as is my business site. “Dentatus” is the tag I started with long ago, so I might as well keep it.

    In terms of building community, familiarity & trust - doesn’t that happen via the responses in discussion threads? It’s a hoot to go the shows or cons and meet someone and find out, “Great, you’re so & so!” It never occurrred to me such a thing would be an issue.


    Gareth says:

    This is one of the reason I liked the facebook group for TTGN. Muteki here :D


    Ken Whitehurst says:

    Although I agree with Brant’s post above about employers combing the web for info, since I already post reviews in my real name, here goes. I think the world is slowly adapting past the ‘anonymous internet’ thing. Nevertheless, the fact that everything one says remains permanently online makes one think before typing. At least, it should. Tertius out.


    Benoit Lescarbeau says:

    I’ve almost always used my real name on various boards. Hard to say if it did change something. I like that other gamers I met for the first few times call me by my real name instead of some strange virtual persona. On the other hand, it makes me more nervous about work. Gaming is not that well accepted in my area and I’m from a very conservative line of work. Might lose me some credibility points. Or I might be getting too paranoïd!


    Carl Brown says:

    hmmm… this is an interesting topic. I’m not sure which side of the anonymity vs real name fence I’ll ultimately fall on. I can see the value of arguments from both sides.

    I’ll give the real name a go here though, TGN is one of the more sensible places on the web.

    Well, most of the time anyway :-)

    a_thousand_hats


    Zac says:

    Well, most of the time anyway :-)

    As long as we avoid the topic of Confrontation prepaints :-)


    briguy says:

    I’ve read enough things about employers googling you etc. etc. that I’m worried about using my real name. And I’m certain that at some point I’ve said not-nice things about people on the internet, despite my best efforts.

    I should think it’s obvious what my first name is from my user handle, but I prefer to keep my last name away from gaming unless necessary.


    Zac says:

    I’ve read enough things about employers googling you etc. etc. that I’m worried about using my real name.

    Any company that paranoid can track you down in any case as most message boards store the IPs of posters.

    We don’t but phpBB, smf, Ultiamte etc all track IPs.


    GS_topcow says:

    I’m all for it, I’ve been GS_Topcow for the past 12 years (GS stands for Ghost Squad, my first online community in the IGZ, whilst playing XvT…), Still, I think its good to see game designers and gamers alike just showing up on the boards and giving an oppinion (you can see this happening all the time in http://www.Boardgamegeek.com).

    Changing right away


    ctzn99 says:

    Two of the forums I most frequent I’ve always had my name in my sig. Every since I created them about 3 or 4 years ago. I constantly see (at least in one of those forums) brutal flames and some people being complete jackasses. Invariably one of the flamers will get called out and accused of being an ass just because he’s anonymous, usually his / her manhood comes into question as well.

    When or if that person bites (which isn’t often) and posts his real name there is almost always a change in tone to his posts. Often not anyless brutal or scathing but changed in a way that shows a bit more respect to the forum community. I made a conscious decision years ago to post on those forums using my real name in my sig. I stand by what I state, claim, have opinions, on, etc., and I open to the criticism and open to having my statements altered or opinion changed based on the some really intelligent feedback. Thats why I posted or responded to the community in the first place.

    Additionally I have noticed over the years that, when people use their real names and are very active posters, others will create new posts, or respond to other posts, and mention those posters names: i.e. John Doe was mentioning in this post here that… I think that’s a sign of community.

    I’ve never gotten around to setting up a sig for posts on this site but you’ll see that I’ve manually signed my name a few times. I’ve now changed my display name.


    nanite says:

    I don’t have many illusions about internet annonimity, but yeah, what altfritz said.

    Plus, I’m known as nanite, I don’t want to start over.


    supervike says:

    supervike is my real name.

    I had it legally changed 4 years ago.


    Trent McCaffrey says:

    This whole concept can be put in a different perspective. Imagine trying to live in the real world without giving your real name. Imagine you go to an interview and tell a prospective employer, “I’ll give you my nickname, but I want to protect my personal information to prevent fraud.” Or you go to get a bank account and tell the bank, “You can’t have my real name, because you might leak my information by accident.” In both cases they would think you’re crazy.

    The reason that our modern societies work so well is because they’re built on accountability and trust surrounding identity. It’s not easy to change your name on a whim, as it is on the internet. People can be trusted because they’ll be identified and held accountable by the rules (the laws) of society.

    We could try to live out our lives strictly under nicknames, but it would be damn hard to live without a bank account and to receive income in cash only.

    Unfortunately, because much of the early internet culture was developed by hackers (where fear of prosecution was very real), the pseudonym convention stuck.

    Certainly there are merits to concealing one’s real identity from prospective employers and fraudsters. I think the former is largely a non-issue as most employers will be simply bored by looking at employee’s hobbies. And the latter concern is overblown. Identity theft happens primarily through good old-fashioned mail fraud. I know, I work in banking. Besides, the massive community benefits gained by using real names outweigh the minuscule additional fraud risk. Go back to the previous example….you could eliminate the risk of fraud be never giving your name, but would you want to life that way?


    briguy says:

    Trent:

    Very good points. Until I *have* a regular employer where they may understand any eccentricities I may have (ahem) then I think I’d like to avoid any potential “Google mishaps”. :-)


    Zac says:

    Do you actually think that you might not get a job because of postings you make here?

    Would you want to work at any place that wouldn’t hire you because if it?


    mathieu says:

    My thought exactly. Getting to work for a Big Brother look alike doesn’t sound that appealing to me.


    briguy says:

    Zac: I’m thinking more of things I may have said on other sites where I use the same username (*cough* Frothers *cough*) I think I’ve watched my mouth, but you never know.

    My girlfriend attended a seminar with some experts who said this kind of thing is very, very common research for employers in her field of work (education) and seeing as I want to get into something like that, I want to be very careful.


    LarkinVain says:

    We do searches on myspace, google, etc. on new potential employees all the time. This is specially important when the employee is working with children. Not because of paranoia or being big brother but because we’ve been screwed over in the past because an potential candidate puts up a front in the interview and end up to be a bad employee. We end up wasting time on money. Of course all potential employees know that we may or may not do (depending on the position) a background check on them and this includes searching myspace, google, etc. The extra time invested in searching more about an employee on what is publicly available could save a lot of time and money and even the professional relationship between co-worders. (I’ve seen bad apples come in an practically destroy interpersonal relationship among co-workers)


    Osbad says:

    I’ve used “Osbad” on pretty much every gaming forum I have ever got involved with. So it is probably the case that more gamers know me by my nickname, rather than my real name “Paul Mullis”.

    For this reason alone, I will stick with my nickname here and elsewhere. However if I had my time over I’d have probably used my full name from the start, as I am a lot less paranoid about identity theft than I was all those years ago.

    There are certainly many people within various wargaming companies who know who the real Osbad is, and will (and have) hold me to account for anything controversial I may say.


    jedijon says:

    Gah–names are dumb.

    I don’t “HIDE” behind any anonymity, and I’m not the kind of guy who will meet you or be interested in being met at a convention. I’m all for the option to be there, part of my name’s ALREADY in my handle, you won’t gain anything by knowing my last name–and you won’t “know me” by putting my name to my face so to speak.

    The real issue as I see it would be the amount of persona that people seem to invest in these online thingees (or their “fandom” in general anyway). That seems to be what’s driving the anger, betrayal, etc. Look no farther than the fans of confrontation for examples. While I have been–and will be in the future–guilty of this as well, I’m cognizant of what unhealthy involvement is. And, I would think that in a very small way, adding your “real name” would make the experience more “real”, and cause an infinitesimally greater amount of investiture as the community consensus becomes that these little posts we make are less of a “side-light”, and more of our “real-life”. Cuz folks, if you’re not chatting with people you’ll ever play a game with–it’s not real life at all. How’s that for an ironic thing to say in this context? (i.e. none of you know me)


    Gitteau says:

    I’m a closeted gamer, so I can’t imagine using my full name on any gaming site. My real name is public on a number of non-gaming sites, and I don’t think it affects my demeanor or posting style in any way.


    Audrey says:

    I bit late of seeing this. But interesting topic as about 2 years or so ago I have mainly dropped using wraeththu and just use my first name Audrey. I certainly feel it is more personable to use a real name. But I guess people that want you to know their name will tell it to you. I know some gaming forums were most tend to post their name in their threads and it is a rather friendly place. But anyhow, to each their own I guess.


    Thom says:

    I have always used at least part of my real name in any screen name I have used. It’s easier for me to remember and easier for everyone else.

    However more than once I have walked over to a crowd of gamers and gotten your that Thom? It was rather amusing.


    redstripe (Nick) says:

    He is different to who I am in real life.

    Dissociative Identity Disorder is a treatable condition and there are several very effective medications on the market.

    I don’t know, Zac, I’m not sure this is making me less abbraisive.

    I kid, I kid.


    Bungle says:

    I am known as Bungle by my friends both online and in real life. It took my wife 6 weeks to find out my real name when we first met.

    It separates work and official stuff from friends.


    RogueM says:

    Nick (redstripe), I’m going to take the bait on this one but first as it is my first post let me introduce myself… my name is Rogue Maréchal (if the surname makes anyone more the wiser). And no Rogue is not my first name :-)

    Dissociative Identity I’m sure is a disorder for those whose profession it is to diagnose, those who get paid for ’solving’ people’s life by putting a label on some condition that may be there for a reason (positive effects), and those who sell above mentioned drugs.

    To those who choose to ’suffer’ from it, except extreme cases, it is not only harmless but beneficial to their well being.

    I realize you were teasing but I wanted to make the serious point that we all have different patterns of behaviour. A basic example is that we can get asked the same favour from 2 different people and for one the answer will be ‘yes’ and for the other the answer will be ‘no’.

    That’s completely essential to protect yourself against opportunists and parasites (the latter being purposely offensive and a form of opportunism harming the recipient) and is of course why DID is controversial.

    I personally assert the ‘condition’ as I have suffered, medically speaking, from rejecting it and from so called ‘professional’ attempts to repair what I describe as an asymmetric response that I was unable to ’socially conceal’ (this is sometimes referred to as hypocrisy).

    Anyway just chiming in to say that apart from my mother, girlfriend and employer (in other words those taking care of my well being in a significant manner) it is ‘Rogue’ so that’s obviously going to be ‘Rogue’ for everyone I will unlikely ever meet in person ;-)


    Tacobake says:

    If we are talking about this, I personally like differentiating between gaming boards and professional boards. Goofy name and all the jokes for the gaming boards, the professional boards I use my professional name and make … the same jokes. :).

    That is the opposite, I would say. This is assuming the Internet is an extension of one’s resume.

    But a colleague should understand anything under the call sign counts under, “noone cares what you do on the weekend”.


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