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    Gaz Palmer has an interesting question that many of us probably already have experience with.

    He asks:

    I have 2 younger children 9 and 12. What game would TGN readers recommend for a younger gamer like my kids as their first miniatures game (with respect to easy of play, fun factor, etc)?

    They’re already interested in the modelling and painting side so pre-painted isn’t really a pre-requisite. I currently play Warmachine, Hordes, 40k and Urban War.

    30 Responses to “Ask TGN: Games for younger players”


    Doc says:

    I’d highly recommend playing Combat Patrol rules for 40K; short games (I won one in 4 mins on Sunday!), minimal models, and a lack of complex scenario rules make for a fun game.


    hdan says:

    I’ve played LoTR with a kid that age with a lot of success. I suspect that 40k would be fine as well, provided that you stay away from the really crazy weapons and powers at first.

    I’ve also played THW’s “Chain Reaction 2.0″ with the same kid, and he quickly grasped the rules and really enjoyed them. (It seems that newbies actually “get” CR faster than more experienced hands, as they have less to unlearn.) CR2 has the virtue of being free, generic-ish and very “toy soldier”ish in the sense that it almost feels more like free-form playing than a traditional I Go You Go game.


    Zac says:

    No personal experience in this.. yet. But I have heard from a lot of wargaming parents that Heroscape is a great game for this sort of thing. Simple to learn, rather self contained, kid safe in that dropping the terrain or minis isn’t a problem and it is reputed to be interesting enough for older kids and parents to play.


    Rich_B says:

    A couple of oldies that may be worth considering if you can get your hands on them:

    If you have an old copy of 3rd ed Blood Bowl that makes for a great fast and furious fun game that doesn’t bog down too much.

    Space Crusade was an awesome sci-fi wargaming primer ;-) also I’d recommend Battlemasters for its fast & fluid gameplay for the younger gamer.

    I know these may not be the easiest to lay your hands on if you don’t already have them but you may find that another gamer in your group has a copy of at least one of these in the loft or on top of a wardrobe! :-)


    trajan says:

    Here is a link to an absolutely brilliant little game that has brought me and my friends bags of fun. http://www.warrioronline.demon.co.uk/OTWGames/otwgames.htm
    I found this at a local wargames show (Triples) and never looked back. It is very easy to pickup and play. Everything you need is in the box, including some decent minis. There is also a supplement set which expands the rules and provides more figures. Playing cards are used instead of dice. We added a rule that a joker could be used as an “instant death” shot, which certainly added to the fun. For the price you can’t go wrong. Enjoy!!


    Bob says:

    If your kids are into zombies, All Things Zombie by THW is interesting. Kids can each run a separate team that competes with (but not necessarily against) each other. The ref can run the zombies (all automated with charts). Same basic mechanics at CR 2 but more refined in the presentation.

    The cover and pictures in the rule book are not, however, kid friendly (big boobed zombies with no clothes–really a bad marketing decision). You can get bags of 1/72 zombies for about $12 per 100 from Twlight Creations and a box of modern characters and some paper terrain and away you go.


    Stu says:

    Kind of off topic because their games aren’t strictly mini-related (but you can always use minis of course), but I’d recommend checking out http://www.cheapass.com for some really cheap and amusing games.


    Caern says:

    In terms of simplicity I think it’s fairly difficult to beat Warhammer 40,000. Movement is standardised, there is relatively little in the way of tactical options, and the turn structure is very basic and involves no significant amount of learning. Pretty much anyone can be taught to play Warhammer 40,000 fairly quickly.


    Jeff Cope says:

    I’ll second Zac’s recommendation of Heroscape, ‘though this time with some personal experience.

    The game is a blast to play for adults and for kids, and is a great game for adults to play WITH kids, too.

    Plus, if the kids are into super-heroes there’s the Marvel Heroscape set as well.


    Tertius says:

    Heroscape is the best for this.
    Blood Bowl is, at its heart, easy enough to play as well.
    The space combat game “Silent Death” comes to mind. You will need to read the rules and digest them for the kids, but the game is easy to teach, and quite elegant in its simplicity.

    You could also hunt down an old copy of GW’s Man o’ War. This is a great game, and easy to teach.

    I would err on the side of fewer miniatures (airplanes, ships, spacecraft, etc.) with kids. Games on this scale tend to be easier to pick up and play because they contain fewer variations and ‘what-ifs” than ground battles with many figures. (simple LOS, no terrain modifiers, no charge/melee, etc.).

    The other option to play a boardgame with miniatures (a la Heroscape and Blood Bowl).


    RavenstarStudios says:

    Hero scape . for the cost , great painted minis , land scapes , good rules. , quick game play and lots of expantion sets. oe of the best games for the buck.


    Tardis says:

    I’d reccomend HotT (Hordes of the Things)…fun, easy, cheap, and you collect historical toys and use them in a non-historical context.

    That’s how I hooked my son

    That and Munchkin, Chez Geek…but you need a secondary school type person to understand the “fun”


    Cosmotiger says:

    My five year old likes Battlemasters. The rules are simple (I believe Heroscape uses a similar system), but still involves tactical thinking, planning, etc. Another game that both adults and kids can enjoy. (That big mat and all those miniatures is visually impressive, too). It is out-of-print, but you can often find complete used copies on eBay.

    Another game I’d suggest is Song of Blades and Heroes from Ganesha games. It’s a generic fantasy skirmish game, based on warbands of about 5-20+ figures, in 15mm or 25/28mm.

    The rules are quick, straight-forward and easy to learn, with the ability to add on more special rules/abilities later, if you wish. There are army lists, but you can also generate a custom profile for just about any fantasy miniature. If they like painting, this is a plus, since they can play with anything they feel like painting up. It has rules for mini-campaigns, so you can also run it as a sort of “roleplaying lite” game with an ongoing band of figures, if that has more of an appeal.


    KillMeForPrizes says:

    I would also recommend Heroscape - playable right out of the box - not too expensive and lots of expansion. And super customizable - your kids like some 40K figs or whatever paint em up have em make up some stat cards and go to town.


    dagorlad says:

    The upcoming Monsterpocalypse game from Privateer Press looks to be an interesting entry-level game - prepainted, so the youngsters can get started straight away, and with giant rampaging monsters destroying a city, what’s not to enjoy? Of course, I haven’t seen the game or the figures yet, so it may be pants.

    My 11 year old son was originally interested in Lord of the Rings and has now moved on to 40K (despite my best efforts), but my 5 year old lad is eyeing up my Warmachine/Hordes collection (I’m so proud) and has decided he wants to play Everblight.

    The main difficulty my sons face is the large cost of starting an army - it is soooo expensive to amass enough forces to fight a decent battle with any of the mainstream games. Which is why I suggested a collectable game like MonPoc - any game of this nature is pretty much playable straight out of the box.


    Phillip says:

    Get the Battle for Macragge box set and the expansion booklet ‘The Battle rages On’.

    Superbly written, well playtested and a box full of minis. The scenarios slowly build up the game and are fun to play.


    Muteki says:

    Hey guys (this is Gaz), I’ve got the 40k Macragge boxset actually (I live in Japan and my kids speak Japanese) so I picked up the J version for this years. I’ve got a 4×4 table so a 500 point skirmish would be ideal. I started to show the younger of the 2 the various armies and he liked the look of the Space Wolves :D

    I’m really interested in some of the other games people suggested and will definately be picking up Monsterpocalypse (since I love PP!)

    Quick question; having near played Heroscape - does it use cards too? The 9 year old absolutely loves Yugioh and a few other CCGs, if cards were integrated that would probably be an added bonus.


    Muteki says:

    RichB:

    I have both back at home in the UK! I might have to grab those when I go back.. in fact I think I think I have all the “first ed” kinda stuff - Space Crusade, Heroquest, Space Hulk, Talisman, etc. I hope they’re still in shape to play though..


    Stu says:

    I’d second Cosmotiger’s suggestion too. Song of Blades and Heroes is an excellent fast system for Fantasy gaming that requires ~10 figures a side. Despite being a free-form figures war game, during play it feels like a board game. It’ll probably be the first war game I introduce my son to in a couple of years if he’s interested.

    Another suggestion is search the web! There’s plenty of free war games out there. Unbridled Fury’s offerings spring to mind.


    Probert says:

    Blood Bowl is perfect.

    I would also recommend Legends of the Old West by Warhammer historical. Small groups of cowboys shooting it out in the old west.


    Muteki says:

    Out of interest; how easy is the new Elfbowl game?


    Zac says:

    I wouldn’t suggest it for younger gamers as it does require a bit more tactical finesse than Blood Bowl.


    gavroche says:

    I would avoid the Warhammers or similar games, as they really are rather complicated, require a lot of bookkeeping & need quite a bit of figures. Games like Battlemasters, Space Hulk, Heroscape or any skirmish game which is not too rules heavy would be much more suitable. Perhaps you could also have a look at this site: http://www.freewargamesrules.co.uk/ Lots of neat little games in different genres, and all for free.


    a_thousand_hats says:

    I’ll throw in another vote for Space Hulk, Battle Masters, Heroquest (if you already have it), Dark World (if you can find it) and Blood Bowl (3rd ed).

    Like many have said 40k is actually really simple to teach and it doesn’t require loads of minis - play only 400pt (40k in 40mins/combat patrol) or 500pts - these are still good games.

    My boys are a bit young yet but when I mentioned selling off a load of my minis they went up in arms about it saying that I could pass them on to them!

    So it looks like I have at least two opponents in years to come.

    :-)


    Grant says:

    I’d suggest something board game orientated too, with Heroquest and Space Crusade being personal favourites (if you can get them).

    Do they have any preference between fantasy and Sci-Fi?


    Jeremy says:

    I will second BattleMaster (thats what got me into gaming when I was 12), and Heroscape (never played it but it seems made for this age group.

    One I haven’t seen mentioned, but have had great success with personally is Hundred Kingdoms:

    http://100k.blackorc.com/index.php

    The rules are free online, quite simple, introduce players to both skirmish or formation battles, and have a lot of room to grow tactically. I started my 7 year old on this when he was 5 and he picked it up in a few minutes. On top of that, it has really inexpensive, nice minis and army selections a kid can really enjoy. My 7 year old loves his dinosaur men (he is the biggest dino nut I have ever seem), while my 4 year old thinks the monkey men are awesome too. With the Warbands rules you can have a fun game with just 5 miniatures. We started out that way, and now our Outkast force has grown to hundreds of minis.

    The rules also all use one type of dice and one rolling convention which teaches simple math and never confuses children with exceptions. Since all of the rules are free, including army lists, you might check them out at least and play a game with proxies. Our first game was played with plastic dinosaur and king kong toys!

    Good luck!


    Warlady says:

    I will throw my vote in for Heroscape and/or the Marvel Heroscape as well. Lots of booster pack figures to choose from, and very kid friendly. There is certainly an infinite variety of terrain arrangements, and the interlocking pieces keep everything stable while playing. There are stat cards for each figure/unit with point values and special abilities, so there might be some appeal to your son there.

    We’re about to try Song of Blades and Heroes ourselves, so while I have no playing experience with it, the rules do seem easy enough for younger kids, while still offering a challenge. And you can play it with minis you already have, which is a big plus.


    Marauder says:

    If others are going to suggest prepaint then I’ll jump on the band waggon too! Star wars miniatures! A very easy game to learn, but difficult to master. It uses preprinted maps, so you can get a gaming going very quickly and just about anywhere.


    Runs with Scissors says:

    Song of Blades and Heroes from Ganesha Games would be ideal, plus the download is incredibly inexpensive. The rules come with stats for all the basic fantasy races, but there’s a simple system for creating your own troop types, so you can have the lego men fighting plastic dinosaurs within 1/2 an hour. The basic mechanics are wonderfully simple. Figures have 2 stats in their profile - Quality and Combat, plus they can have special rules to make things interesting. Most of the special rules are esentially exceptions to the basic mechanics, so they’re very easy to learn and remember (and you only need to know the ones that affect your figures).


    Runs with Scissors says:

    Or rather more lightheartedly, how about WRG 1925-1950? Think of all the fun they’ll have cross-referencing wind/range/muzzle velocity/armour tables. I presume they know how to use a slide rule?


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