Comments on: Scale distortion http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/2007/05/13/7601 Daily news, reviews and information for tabletop gamers of all interests. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 05:18:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: redstripe http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/2007/05/13/7601/comment-page-1#comment-8647 redstripe Mon, 14 May 2007 13:12:09 +0000 http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/?p=7601#comment-8647 The internet, arguably, provides the purest supply/demand environment. While Marines Workshop has a good deal of influence over the price point of a single 32mm miniature, ultimately the demand for a product is going to dictate its price. If a company were to come out an produce Power-Armored Cosmic Rangers, I'd likely not buy any. My appetite for such is already filled to nausiation by GW. However, companies like Wyrd, Corvus Belli, and Black Scorpion provide truly unique product, product I can't get anywhere else. As long as they provide that kind of intriguing product, product that is very much in short supply, they can continue to demand my dollars. These companies exist not only on the quality of their work but also on how inspired it is. These companies have inspiration and passion that has long since faded from their larger kin. That inspiration, that passion, is worth paying for and I will continue to do so, as long as its there. The internet, arguably, provides the purest supply/demand environment. While Marines Workshop has a good deal of influence over the price point of a single 32mm miniature, ultimately the demand for a product is going to dictate its price. If a company were to come out an produce Power-Armored Cosmic Rangers, I’d likely not buy any. My appetite for such is already filled to nausiation by GW.

However, companies like Wyrd, Corvus Belli, and Black Scorpion provide truly unique product, product I can’t get anywhere else. As long as they provide that kind of intriguing product, product that is very much in short supply, they can continue to demand my dollars.

These companies exist not only on the quality of their work but also on how inspired it is. These companies have inspiration and passion that has long since faded from their larger kin. That inspiration, that passion, is worth paying for and I will continue to do so, as long as its there.

]]> By: angelbarracks http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/2007/05/13/7601/comment-page-1#comment-8646 angelbarracks Mon, 14 May 2007 11:33:16 +0000 http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/?p=7601#comment-8646 I don't think discounts are that relevant. It's the value for money that i look for. Smaller companies quite often can have big margins but the unit retail cost may be so low that the margin is not that relevant and as such discounts can be irrelevant. For example my unpainted dry stone walls sell at 10p each which is a nice mark up from cost, but as the unit selling price is so cheap i can not afford to offer a discount like the big players, i hope that my value for money is enough to win business. I would not pay 'full price' from smaller or larger companies even if i liked the product if i thought the it was overpriced in the first place. Value for money i say!! Michael. I don’t think discounts are that relevant.
It’s the value for money that i look for.

Smaller companies quite often can have big margins but the unit retail cost may be so low that the margin is not that relevant and as such discounts can be irrelevant.

For example my unpainted dry stone walls sell at 10p each which is a nice mark up from cost, but as the unit selling price is so cheap i can not afford to offer a discount like the big players, i hope that my value for money is enough to win business.

I would not pay ‘full price’ from smaller or larger companies even if i liked the product if i thought the it was overpriced in the first place.

Value for money i say!!

Michael.

]]> By: pnweerar http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/2007/05/13/7601/comment-page-1#comment-8645 pnweerar Mon, 14 May 2007 11:30:21 +0000 http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/?p=7601#comment-8645 Nice to read an article like this. I have 16 staff doing customized miniature painting, not everyone seems to realise that this is different from buying a DVD from Amazon. Nice to read an article like this.

I have 16 staff doing customized miniature painting, not everyone seems to realise that this is different from buying a DVD from Amazon.

]]> By: wyrdlyng http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/2007/05/13/7601/comment-page-1#comment-8643 wyrdlyng Mon, 14 May 2007 07:17:09 +0000 http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/?p=7601#comment-8643 The scale of a miniature company does come into play for me when looking to buy merchandise. I'll look for the largest discount for products from companies like GW; their products are "mass" produced so they can take it as far as I'm concerned. On the other hand, I'll gladly pay full price from smaller companies (like Wyrd) in order to support their growth. But once a company reaches a certain size and market saturation, I start digging for the discount (PP, I'm looking at you). The scale of a miniature company does come into play for me when looking to buy merchandise. I’ll look for the largest discount for products from companies like GW; their products are “mass” produced so they can take it as far as I’m concerned. On the other hand, I’ll gladly pay full price from smaller companies (like Wyrd) in order to support their growth.

But once a company reaches a certain size and market saturation, I start digging for the discount (PP, I’m looking at you).

]]> By: Stu http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/2007/05/13/7601/comment-page-1#comment-8637 Stu Sun, 13 May 2007 21:16:39 +0000 http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/?p=7601#comment-8637 The number of independent miniature manufacturers online these days is a god-send for anybody playing games that don't come from Games Workshop and in particular for the smaller scales like 15mm. To be honest I'm usually happy to pay higher prices to support independent manufacturers than to pay overinflated prices to support Games Workshop. The number of independent miniature manufacturers online these days is a god-send for anybody playing games that don’t come from Games Workshop and in particular for the smaller scales like 15mm.

To be honest I’m usually happy to pay higher prices to support independent manufacturers than to pay overinflated prices to support Games Workshop.

]]> By: angelbarracks http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/2007/05/13/7601/comment-page-1#comment-8635 angelbarracks Sun, 13 May 2007 20:41:40 +0000 http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/?p=7601#comment-8635 I must say that I am very pleased that Zac has acknowledged the efforts the smaller companies go to. Angel Barracks is a business that is run when I am not at my full time 'proper job' given the limited time and very limited finances available to me I am so far pleased with its success. The website is built and maintained by my very understanding wife (who too has a 'proper job') The design of the site is done by myself as are the newsletters, the sculpting and the casting of the scenery. The researching and writing of the rules and supplements. The purchasing and advertising, the packing and distributing. The painting for our figure painting service and the ready painted scenery and much more. I have found that it takes a lot of hard work and involves a lot of patience and perseverance. Why do I do it? Certainly not to get rich. I do it because I love the hobby. I wanted to offer a service where everything that is needed to start wargaming can be bought in one place. That is my aim and I hope my efforts will be appreciated. Michael I must say that I am very pleased that Zac has acknowledged the efforts the smaller companies go to.
Angel Barracks is a business that is run when I am not at my full time ‘proper job’
given the limited time and very limited finances available to me I am so far pleased with its success.
The website is built and maintained by my very understanding wife (who too has a ‘proper job’)
The design of the site is done by myself as are the newsletters, the sculpting and the casting of the scenery.
The researching and writing of the rules and supplements.
The purchasing and advertising, the packing and distributing.
The painting for our figure painting service and the ready painted scenery and much more.
I have found that it takes a lot of hard work and involves a lot of patience and perseverance.

Why do I do it?
Certainly not to get rich.

I do it because I love the hobby.
I wanted to offer a service where everything that is needed to start wargaming can be bought in one place.
That is my aim and I hope my efforts will be appreciated.

Michael

]]> By: gavroche http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/2007/05/13/7601/comment-page-1#comment-8630 gavroche Sun, 13 May 2007 18:43:18 +0000 http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/?p=7601#comment-8630 3 cheers for the small companies doing a great job! 3 cheers for the small companies doing a great job!

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